MIKE ON TV: Can Awards Shows Ever Be Good?

I recently sat down with my old Variety boss, Peter Bart, for his new KNBC/Encore show "Movie Talk with Peter Bart." This being awards season, we talked about how dreadful most awards shows still are, and whether or not there's any hope for the genre. (They don't appear to have any clips online, so yes, I recorded this on a Flip camera straight off my TV. Don't judge!)